There are criminal offenses like murdering, raping someone. And those things are treated differently. And so in my mind, and again, I'm open to negotiating how the details work, but There needs to be in broad strokes a pathway to, to citizenship where they pay a fine for being here without documentation or crossing the border illegally. There should be some penalty for that. I'm not disagreeing. They should also have to pay back taxes. Again, immigrants, undocumented immigrants in particular, pay a lot of taxes and don't get benefits in return. (35:20–35:29)
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Advocates for a pathway to citizenship involving fines for undocumented immigrants.
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