Gavin Newsom: “There was sort of an over indexing in that toxic frame and…”

“I think it pushes people away and it only makes them more susceptible to being pulled in by people like Tate. So what do you. And I. And I appreciate that and I think there's some truth to that, that There was sort of an over indexing in that toxic frame and we lost folks. And, and so what is the positive alternative? And that's the challenge. How do you make. I mean, these guys have one thing in common.” (48:41–48:46)

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