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Gavin Newsom: “AI is blowing everything out of the water.”

Featuring: Gavin Newsom, Democratic | Governor of California

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Published July 23, 2026 | Video Starts at 39:51

You can always scroll and get to the next thing, which is part of why it's very addictive. But a lot of those tools that let you kind of control the ecosystem you're in have been taken away. AI is blowing everything out of the water. And you end the book talking a little bit more about AI. You begin with that Walker video and just around Truth and trust and relationship to artificial intelligence. (39:51–39:55)

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“California being the first state in the country to go after large language model, frontier models and do transparency language legislation…”
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“We had these unbelievable bipartisan deals, 400 bipartisan legislative victories.”
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“And you make that point in. In the book that the algorithm then becomes the boss.”
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“I mean, it could happen. I mean, I happen. This is the origin story of this podcast in so many respects. I mean, during COVID Son's on his…”
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“There was an experiment I read the other day where they provided tablets for boys around the globe. And it was, I think within 22 minutes…”
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“We're being watched 24/7. We're all become performers.”
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“Politicians, you know, right now, I mean, we're performing. It's changing us.”
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“We've seen the performance changes as it relates to even city council meetings.”
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“And how it quite literally changes people. It changes the tone and tenor.”
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“The right wing tends to do better in this medium.”
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“Michael Savage... was the guy who created the frame, language, borders and culture, was unbelievably effective in that frame.”
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“Their ability to control the narrative, their ability to communicate with, taking advantage of so many things you highlight in the book, or…”
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“You begin with that Walker video and just around Truth and trust and relationship to artificial intelligence.”
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“You commented earlier about 60 to 70% of their. Their in terms of these avatars. People.”
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“You're on this blacklist, right, for the White House.”
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“We don't even share the same set of facts.”
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“We're in the... early days, the black and white movie days of what I can do in terms of weaponizing these grievances.”
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“There was sort of an over indexing in that toxic frame and we lost folks.”
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“We had record job growth.”
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“We were reducing the deficit and debt.”
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“Biden delivered on [an industrial policy that's worker centered].”
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“One of the most America first, you know, America Buy America products first.”
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“The framework around actually having living wages, union wages.”
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“The Green New Deal in so many respects was reflected in [President Biden's] policies in terms of the incentives and the tax structures that…”
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“We need to quote, unquote, pay Attention to clips, virality, social media.”
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“How do we start to knit together a democr around restoring and repairing our democracy, democratizing our economy so we can save our…”
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“We don't act taller than thou. We recognize the, we deal with the cards that have been dealt.”
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“Politics has infected every part of our life.”
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“I used to love sports because it wasn't political.”
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“I did one [debate] with Ron DeSantis and again back into the filter bubble, a few people actually watched the entire thing.”
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“What most people said that they watched it, they saw the clips that were shared within their feed which only reinforced and expressed their…”
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