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James Talarico's Beautiful Answer to Christian Nationalism | The Ezra Klein Show

Published January 13, 2026 | Video Starts at 55:25

I think you're sanding the edges off of this. Okay, tell me. Yeah, I'd love to hear. These online quick videos you're seeing on Instagram, on TikTok, on YouTube shorts, there's not that much time for plot. You can't sort of weave in slowly. It is about creating an instant sensation. And I think that there is a dimension often of conflict. (55:25–55:31)

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“On Instagram, now only 7% of the time people spend on Instagram, 7% is spent on content offered by friends and family.”
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“Australia just implemented its ban on social media for kids under 16.”
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“Democrats are more likely to cut off a family member for political views than Republicans.”
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“One of my obsessions over the past few years has been the role of attention in modern American politics.”
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“James Talarico is running for Senate in Texas.”
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“He's running in a primary with Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett for what will be one of the most important Senate elections in the country.”
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“You're arguing for a scriptural basis for abortion. You're not just emphasizing in your politics different aspects of your faith, but you're…”
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“How do you understand that? Because I'm Jewish. But when I read the New Testament, I always come away a little bit amazed that politicized…”
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“Donald Trump doesn't pretend that his politics are built on piety.”
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“The vice president, J.D. Vance, does suggest that his politics are built around a Christian ethic.”
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“I see people who are incredibly loud in their Christianity and also incredibly cruel in their politics.”
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“You can enforce [a nation's border] in all manner of ways without treating people who are coming here to escape violence or to better their…”
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“Society alters very fast what it looks like today versus what it looked like when I was growing up.”
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“One thing I see people looking for in religion and in religious politics... is people want something to hold onto when everything around…”
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“Should there be billionaires? You can imagine a structure of taxation that just says nobody needs to personally control more than a billion…”
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“Most people have three friends. They want something like 15, but who's got the time? I'm paraphrasing, but not by much, and suggest, as many…”
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“Meta in particular, sees, given what their business is, you can create these AI companions of different kinds.”
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“We do not know what it will mean, how it will change people to have these kinds of relationships with AIs.”
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“Having just people being raised in an economy that is dehumanized, and then also a social world, a digital social world that is dehumanized.”
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“You send in your job application and you're interviewed by an AI, which is happening to people now.”
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“I have noticed that the best tech criticism, much of it comes from religious figures and communities.”
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“Modern liberalism, neoliberalism, you might call it, are. I think it is a lot of trouble with moral judgment.”
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“Algorithmic media giants have driven their products through [the framework of modern liberalism].”
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“You have such a searing and I think morally righteous critique of this algorithmic rage economy.”
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“My implicit equation of attention is curiosity plus conflict equals attention.”
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“One division it sounds to me like you're tracking in the Democratic conversation right now is how much is Democratic politics about Donald…”
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“The Trump administration is in power, and they are doing things, as we've discussed already, that are cruel or outrageous or corrupt.”
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“Some of the voters, Democrats who need to win, certainly if you're a Senate candidate in Texas, are voters who do not hate Donald Trump, are…”
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“For Democrats, the politics of love that includes the person without health insurance, the immigrant family, the gay or lesbian or trans…”
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“The division in this country, the people who don't like Democrats right now feel Democrats don't like them.”
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“Trump has very effectively weaponized the belief many Americans have that the only Americans Democrats don't love are Americans like them.”
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“People are actually hungry for more moral leadership, including from political leaders.”
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“Our politics became managerial and technocratic and sanitized.”
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“We drafted in our society for a long time off of the fact that we had so many other healthy institutions.”
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“We don't talk like that anymore. We're trying to prove everything on a chart.”
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“The biggest concern I hear about you in Texas is that you're sort of a liberal's idea of what a Christian politician should be.”
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