Ezra Klein: “My implicit equation of attention is curiosity plus conflict…”

“I think you're sanding the edges off of this. Okay, tell me. Yeah, I'd love to hear. My implicit equation of attention is curiosity plus conflict equals attention. People have to be curious about what you're talking about. And there has to be the energy that only in politics, some amount of conflict one side versus the other side unleashes.” (55:43–55:49)

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