Ezra Klein: “There were lawsuits, environmental lawsuits.”

“They're the people who get rid of the piles of coal. They were talking some years later and you're like, postscript, the piles of coal are still there. I looked into it. There were lawsuits, environmental lawsuits. And it got me thinking. I mean, obviously this is a little bit related to abundance work, but there are many different ways this plays out.” (07:25–07:28)

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