And point you would make to me is, look, there's a lot of ferment online about what the Democratic Party should be. But If you look at the Democrats who are winning in the swing states, you look at Tammy Baldwin, who's a senator from Wisconsin, you look at Tony Evers, you look at Gretchen Whitmer, you look at Josh Shapiro, you see these very focused on fixing the roads, making government work well, sort of staying out of big culture wary fights. Right. There's a kind of Midwestern stolid nature to all of them. And, and now there's a heat coming from some of these same states. Right. (20:03–20:21)
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Asserts that successful Democrats in swing states focus on practical governance and avoid cultural conflicts.
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