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Elon Musk: “It's a target rich environment for saving money.”

Featuring: Elon Musk, Senior Advisor to the President, Head of Department of Government Efficiency | National

Joe Rogan Experience #2281 - Elon Musk part 1

Published February 28, 2025 | Video Starts at 31:20

Did you expect it to be like this? I thought it would be bad, but I did not think it would be as bad as this. Look, the good news is that It's a target rich environment for saving money. It's not like it was a very well run ship. If it's very efficient, it would be hard to improve, but it's not efficient, so therefore it is actually relatively easy to improve. (31:20–31:24)

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Asserts that there are many opportunities to save money in the government.

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“Some of them [dead people marked as alive] were getting money.”
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“The various government databases, they don't talk to each other or they talk to each other very poorly.”
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