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Joe Rogan Experience #2281 - Elon Musk part 1

Published February 28, 2025 | Video Starts at 17:57

People cash out these nonprofits, they become very wealthy through nonprofits. They pay themselves enormous sums through these nonprofits. It's so insane that that's been going on for so long. It's a gigantic scam. Like one of the biggest, maybe the biggest scam ever. And how many NGOs? I think there's a total number of NGOs, probably millions. But in terms of large NGOs, tens of thousands. (17:57–18:02)

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“It's coordinated propaganda.”
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“The Dem leadership, or, you know, political leadership, they issue their instructions and their puppets carry it out.”
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“Our elected officials have very little power relative to the bureaucracy.”
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“Government funded NGOs are a way to do things that would be illegal if there were the government.”
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“People cash out these nonprofits, they become very wealthy through nonprofits.”
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“There's a total number of NGOs, probably millions. But in terms of large NGOs, tens of thousands.”
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“George Soros is like a system hacker. Like he figured out how to hack the system.”
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“Payments [from the Treasury] have no payment categorization code and no description on the payment.”
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“Interest on the national debt exceeds the Defense Department budget.”
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“We're paying over a trillion dollars of interest on the national debt.”
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“The federal government is literally losing $2 trillion a year and it does not pass its audits.”
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“Senator Collins was telling you about how she gave the Navy $12 billion for more submarines, got no extra submarines.”
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“We found just with a basic search of the Social Security database that there were 20 million dead people marked as alive.”
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“Some of them [dead people marked as alive] were getting money.”
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“The various government databases, they don't talk to each other or they talk to each other very poorly.”
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“The main payments computer [at the Treasury] is called pam, like Payment Accounts Master Database.”
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“Pam [the Treasury's main payments computer] is responsible for almost $5 trillion payments a year, roughly a billion dollars an hour.”
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“Our recommendation to the treasury and the Federal Reserve is like, we need to make the payment categorization codes mandatory.”
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“My guess is that [making payment categorization codes mandatory] probably saves 100 billion a year.”
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“There's a lot of payments that, where someone just approved the payment, but then that payment officer changed jobs or, or retired or died…”
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“It's a target rich environment for saving money.”
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“The ap, they ran an international news story saying that Doge fired air traffic controllers, but we didn't fire any air traffic controllers…”
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“In fact, we're trying to hire air traffic controllers, not fire them.”
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“A lot of really qualified air traffic controllers were pushed out because of DEI stuff.”
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“There's a talent shortage in air traffic control because of DEI and not hiring people on merit.”
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“I think we should not put the public safety at risk because of some demented philosophy.”
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“And the CIA too, I believe. The CIA was in there too.”
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“Where is the evidence? I mean, the guy has, like, tons of videos and recordings.”
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“Apparently they discovered a whole bunch of stuff at the Southern District of New York.”
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“I believe the last formal audit [of Fort Knox] was in the 50s.”
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“The net result is inflation, which is effectively a tax on everyone.”
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“The Defense Department hasn't passed an audit in I don't know how many years.”
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“The future obligations [of retirement payments] will be much worse in the future.”
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“In New York State, illegal aliens can already vote in state and city elections.”
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“FEMA, the agency that was paying for illegal aliens to stay at luxury hotels in New York.”
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