… hunting or any of that stuff to sitting in a room with people and having a discussion about poetry. If we slow down, turn off the television, which we still. It's been 18 years now since we've had cable or 19 years ago. Yeah, we just don't let that in the house. It's junk. Yeah, it's junk, man. So if you do that, you're not being pumped full of all this crap. Seinfeld, whatever. I've never seen a complete episode of Seinfeld. (38:58–39:07)
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Asserts that Derrick Van Orden has not had cable television in his house for 18 or 19 years.
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