But I think you should start with the premise that I think is validated by the history over the last few decades that in this particular regard China is a nefarious actor. They will seek to steal the technology, they will seek to undermine our technological capabilities. So they should not be viewed at as just another economic player in the ecosystem. They have larger national objectives in their dealings with us, whether it's whether they're buying advanced semiconductor chips or whether it's, it's interacting with our, our frontier models. (32:49–32:58)
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