And, and Kaz has been an investor in that space and knows that space. Well, that's capitalism, that's dynamism, that's markets. That's mostly done on private lands and state, state lands. Right. The federal government has been very obstructive to energy, but most of our oil and gas isn't produced on federal lands. We got great opportunity there. We want to see more there. The electricity sector is different. Very heavy government regulation, very difficult to get a permit, very slow and very bureaucratic. (17:02–17:08)
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Asserts that the federal government has been obstructive to energy production, but most oil and gas production occurs on non-federal lands.
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