… people who might actually agree with Trump's America first policy, that it is important for us to have this influence, to have to wield the soft power in the world. We are not supposed to follow public opinion. We are supposed to change public opinion. Do I think this is more popular for Democrats than talking about saving Medicaid? I do not. But do I think this thing is inherently underwater and we should run away? (48:37–48:44)
CLAIM
Asserts that policymakers should aim to influence public opinion rather than follow it.
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