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Ben Wikler: “Wisconsin was one of the states that enjoyed the experience…”

Featuring: Ben Wikler, Democratic | Chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin

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Published July 28, 2026 | Video Starts at 19:44

The con is you divide people in order to crush them all. It's divide and conquer. So in Wisconsin, Wisconsin was one of the states that enjoyed the experience of being red mapped. Red map was this national Republican effort. Karl Rove poured a ton of money and effort into it. (19:44–19:50)

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Asserts that Wisconsin was targeted by the Republican redistricting strategy known as Red Map.

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“The only reason Republicans have a majority on the US House right now is because of a state Supreme Court election in North Carolina in…”
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“The Republican won by 401 votes and then over years was able to drive the hardcore gerrymandering of that state.”
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“In Wisconsin, we have 1,850 municipal clerks who actually administer elections in our state.”
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“Puerto Rico, which has the highest voter turnout in the country.”
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“Scott Walker won Citizens United. The Tea Party swept in. And then they set about smashing democracy so that they would never lose again.”
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“They smashed unions, they defunded schools, they suppressed votes. They rigged our legislative maps with critical strategy that Trump has…”
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“Wisconsin's state Supreme Court was more far right than the U.S. Supreme Court.”
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“The U.S. Supreme Court is actually kind of the heart of the rot.”
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“The Republicans legislative majorities were bigger. The maps were more rigged. It was harder to vote in Wisconsin.”
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“They passed one of the most restricted voter laws in the United States of America.”
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“We can end this ridiculous system where only some states have a meaningful role in choosing our presidents.”
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“We could have a Senate that is ruled by majority rule and where, you know, every American, including folks in D.C. and Puerto Rico, get to…”
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“We can get through this moment of the arms race gerrymandering to a world where we have a ban on partisan gerrymandering nationwide.”
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“If we don't win at the state level first, protect our democracy, win a federal trifecta pass structural democracy reform in 2029, then we…”
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“This will require reforming the U.S. Supreme Court.”
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“The right targeted our state Supreme Court elections, poured huge amounts of money and time, and took over the court.”
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“The right has targeted these positions to try to get conspiracy theorists and election deniers into positions of local control.”
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“Elections are run at the state level and administered at the local level [in the United States].”
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“Decisions about how much housing to build, those are local government decisions.”
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“Karl Rove poured a ton of money and effort into [Red Map].”
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“We now have [5050 fair maps in Wisconsin that give both sides an even shot in a state that is 5050 in the electorate].”
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“The Republican dominated right wing Wisconsin state Supreme Court just decided to choose the Republicans maps that the governor had vetoed.”
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“Most partisan gerrymandered maps in the United States of America.”
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“They threw out unconstitutional maps that were the previous Supreme Court had essentially rubber stamped.”
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“Republicans in the legislature suddenly thought...the Democratic endorsed Supreme Court candidates will gerrymander the state for the left.”
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“Election day is in two weeks. Early votes started today in the Wisconsin governor primary.”
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“Any of the Democratic candidates can beat Tom Tiffany, the terrible Republican election denier.”
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“Wisconsin is still the tipping point state in the electoral college.”
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“We need a governor who's actually going to certify the legitimate presidential election results.”
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“We're going to have to exercise power to prevent future attempts to build a tyranny in this country.”
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“We need to win power and then unravel their systems of control and return power to the people.”
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“If we win in the states in 26, when we win, we pass the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.”
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“When we win in a House and Senate and White House in 28...abolish the filibuster, expand or add term limits to the U.S. supreme Court, ban…”
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“Many states are just totally failing the test of being legitimate democracies because of gerrymandering and voter suppression.”
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“We came closer than people realize to a national gerrymandering ban.”
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