They would, they would, they would have to override whatever personal relationships we had because they thought they would be politically punished if they were seen as being too cooperative or too close with me. So The incentive structure for politicians was to be polarized. And to look like you couldn't relate to the other person. And we still, we live in that even more now than we did back then. When I first came to the Senate. (49:36–49:41)
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