When my father took over at that time, the big fracture was upstate versus downstate. Yes, right. You lived it. Yes, we lived it. And Upstate for non New Yorkers, primarily Republican leaning conservative New York City at that time, very, very liberal. So that was the big divide. Now it's basically within New York City and it's really within the Democratic Party. (00:08–00:16)
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