Those are the ideals that make America itself. We don't live up to them, though. What's that? We don't live up to them often. We often don't live [up to our ideals]. Of course not. But I would rather live in a country that has ideals and falls short of them than a country that has no ideals at all. So you could say we're a hypocrite. You can only be a hypocrite if you have ideals. So I would rather as a nation be hypocritical and have ideals rather than not have ideals and therefore not be a hypocrite. (23:28–23:36)
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Acknowledges that America often falls short of its ideals but values having ideals over not having any.
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