Because right now, one of the items that's now in a downward spiral instead for us is the Interest payments on the federal debt are soon to be the largest line item in the federal budget. So I think we can turn that downward spiral into a virtuous circle. It will require some level of discipline. That relates to your second question about the moral crusade. (11:10–11:22)
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