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Tucker Carlson: “We've been at war for four years. All of us are pretending…”

Featuring: Tucker Carlson, Conservative, Right-wing | Political Commentator, Former Fox News Host | National

Megyn Kelly on Venezuela, Ben Shapiro's Treachery, and Mark Levin's Mental Illness

Published January 8, 2026 | Video Starts at 23:15

Now, the obstacle in the way is not geostrategic. There is no argument for continuing a proxy war, which is what it is. United States versus Russia. We've been at war for four years. All of us are pretending we're not. We are. There's no reason to continue that on the basis of America's national interest. That is not in our interest, and it never has been in our interest. (23:15–23:18)

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Asserts that the U.S. has been at war with Russia for four years.

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“The United States has been an empire for a long time, for at least the last 80 years, since 1945.”
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“The US Government is finally acting in the interest of the United States, or says it is.”
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“Congress will inevitably wither. It already is. They were not consulted before we took out the president of Venezuela.”
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“The next presidential election, 2028, means much more than any presidential election in our history because the power has expanded so…”
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“The UN most famously, but all of them, The World Health Organization. How about NATO? Do they have any authority at all?”
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“We now live in a world where countries will act in their own interest without apology.”
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“The intent of the administration [is] to not turn Venezuela into a Libya or an Iraq.”
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“That's the kind of budget that a country that anticipates a global or regional war has for its military.”
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“The United States has to have a relationship with Russia in order to survive anything like [a big war].”
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“You are hearing calls not just from the left to end the freedom of speech in the United States.”
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