You hope not, because it's dispiriting and people will die and it's just awful in every way. But at some point it will become clear that The United States couldn't do the thing that great powers do, which is keep commerce going. And so it doesn't mean the United States is not a great power. It just means it's not as great as maybe some people imagine it was. (31:12–31:18)
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Asserts that the U.S. is failing to maintain global commerce, a key role of great powers.
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