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Tucker Carlson: “It's happening at scale.”

Featuring: Tucker Carlson, Conservative, Right-wing | Political Commentator, Former Fox News Host | National

Tulsi Gabbard and Tucker Carlson Discuss Media Integrity, Political Dynamics, and Personal Reflections

Published December 13, 2022 | Video Starts at 39:51

… government spy agencies with multibillion dollar black budgets turning their powers against the population they're supposed to be serving. It's that simple. So that's compatible with, with representative government and It's happening at scale. So in my case, not a complicated story. I wanted to interview Putin. This is before the Ukraine war because I, I, I, I always wanted to go to Russia. (39:51–39:53)

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Asserts that the misuse of power by government spy agencies is occurring on a large scale.

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