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Tucker Carlson: “I mean, and Ben Shapiro seems irrelevant to me now.”

Featuring: Tucker Carlson, Conservative, Right-wing | Political Commentator, Former Fox News Host | National

Tucker Carlson Interviews Nick Fuentes

Published October 27, 2025 | Video Starts at 43:42

They did back then. I mean, because you got to consider they, they were kind of like the ascendant new media. You know, they represented the next big thing. I mean, and Ben Shapiro seems irrelevant to me now. Now, but back then for. No, I guess that's true. So maybe you won. Oh, certainly. (43:42–43:46)

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Asserts that Ben Shapiro is currently irrelevant.

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