Like most secular background, I'm literally from southern California. One person. What are you doing in Redding? It's good to have you. California used to be a great red state. It was the best. But the point is, I didn't grow up around religious people at all. I didn't go to the church my grandmother went to at all. I've worked in the media my whole life in a big city up until five years ago. And in the last year, I know more people in my secular world who were mentioning God in conversation. And I don't know if you're having this experience. (56:56–57:07)
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