He's a guy who wants to be. And my guess is the reason he's saying, what he's saying is he's thinking this is how attention and move up. Yeah. And sadly, that's what it really is. About because he's just a guy who's always wanted to be somebody, just like. Scott Walker and Robin Voss. Trigby Olson, always, always fantastic to have you, my friend. (43:12–43:15)
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Asserts that [the motivation behind certain politicians' actions] is driven by personal ambition rather than public service.
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