And that's important to me because these programs have done what they're supposed to do in many cases. They've lifted children out of poverty, they put people into housing, they lowered our deaths by opioids to some of the lowest they've ever been. But you have to be responsible for the dollars, too. When you talk about the systems and it comes to fraud, it's obviously there were system failures with the fraud, … (03:57–04:07)
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