And I think there's a risk averseness in these campaigns that I don't even say that as a pejorative, but the route to take, less risky. And I think in an existential race like we saw, because I was convinced. I keep telling this story, Molly. I didn't know this, but we did an off the record stop in southern Georgia, and I was on the bus with the vice president. And we're driving down small rural roads and there's little girls, little black girls out there with signs, hand painted signs that said Kamala. And it, you know, I'm like, oh. (12:23–12:33)
CLAIM
Asserts that he participated in an off-the-record campaign stop in southern Georgia with Kamala Harris.
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