… wake up in January or February or March and see Russian tanks once again crossing their borders. I think the negotiated settlement will include some modicum of security guarantees. Now, What it will not include is Ukraine joining NATO. And I oppose Ukraine joining NATO. I've been vocal for a long time. Ukraine should not join Naito. Why is that? (12:41–12:48)
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Asserts opposition to Ukraine joining NATO.
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