And to challenge them in court. All right, let me ask you. And I got two different aspects of this I want to ask you about. One, If you are a staffer at the White House and you're fielding phone calls from friends, colleagues, people that know how to get in touch with you, and you're handing out these commutations or pardons like candy, is that illegal if you're doing it without the president's knowledge? Okay, so. So for sure that's illegal. Then the second question is, as you're. Asking, it's not actually a pardon. I mean, Ben, you could decide today that you want to pardon someone. (13:25–13:46)
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Asserts that it is illegal for White House staffers to issue pardons without the President's knowledge.
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