It was wildly successful in terms of bringing down the rates of new HIV infection, you know, care for moms and making sure that HIV wasn't transmitted to their babies. The success has been phenomenal. And To have it [PEPFAR] pulled away overnight is, first of all, cruel and has disastrous impacts. But it's also about soft power. It's also about leading in this world. That's a vacuum that's not going to be well, maybe China will fill it in, maybe others will try to fill it in. (12:11–12:20)
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Asserts that removing PEPFAR suddenly is cruel and has disastrous impacts.
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