Like China and the United States. That's what the EU wants. And last thing for opening questions, as I've gone around on the movement now and met all the leaders in Europe, Not one [European leader] has ever mentioned destroying the EU. What they want is a reformed EU. They want a confederation of individual nation states that are governed by the citizens of those nation states and not be a United States of Europe. (28:31–28:39)
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Asserts that European leaders want a reformed EU, not its destruction.
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