I chafe at the dedication with which we attribute everything to Trump, as though he sat in his basement and architected this thing. He is a Tool. He is a chaos agent. But If you read Project 2025, which I doubt [Trump] has, if you look at what Russell Vote and what Stephen Miller, and to your point, the techno billionaires, the futurists, what they have found in him is an avatar that can execute their wildest dreams. of what I think at some point will be seen as deeply in conflict. And we saw a moment of that when Musk decided he had to break up with him. (02:33–02:52)
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Asserts that Trump is used by others to execute their plans, referencing Project 2025.
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