Spencer Cox: “Rachel Kleinfeld had studied political violence across all…”

“We traveled around the country and we met with experts. There are depolarization labs at places like Stanford University and others that are doing great work here. But there was one report in particular by Rachel Kleinfeld had studied political violence across all cultures and over time. And she was the one that got me the most interested and the most nervous, quite frankly. And what she said was that we're passing all the checkpoints towards, well, ultimately failed states and things like civil war.” (44:26–44:33)

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