Ryan Clancy: “In Wisconsin, as in many places, we only provide meaningful…”

“Is when people say, I just want to be better when I leave than when I went in. Right. They want to have a skill set. They want to show remorse. And In Wisconsin, as in many places, we only provide meaningful programing to folks for like a year and a half or so before they're released, even if they're in there for decades. And that is unconscionable. Right. Well, I can up too many people. So we have Ryan. Right.” (43:54–44:04)

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