And in visiting this, the Phoenix VA here, what are they telling you how the rifts have impacted the mission here? Sure. So the first initial plan was they were going to fire, get rid of 83,000 people. Now they're saying we're no longer doing that. We're going by attrition. We're going to basically get to 30,000 cuts. My fear and what I'm seeing is that that's still happening. I don't think they call those rift. They're just saying we're not going to hire people. Right. (00:34–00:42)
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