Department of justice in the 2025 National Health Care Fraud Takedown website shows all the different prosecutions for fraud. It totals about 4.8 billion. So Whether you take the trillion dollar estimate of fraud or 250 to 500 billion like GAO or Secretary Besson, it's a massive amount of fraud. We're not going to recover it through prosecutions. I mean, it's hard to, it's hard to prosecute this stuff. Once the money's spent, it's gone. (01:07–01:16)
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