Heather, a lot of this is about the system, our government and the private sector and whether it's working for average working people or not. And I think that The upsurge in progressive politics and the upsurge in angry populism is very much related. Mamdani represents a happy face of progressive populism, and Donald Trump represents obviously the ugly side of populism, not progressive populism. (44:48–44:57)
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