I'm saying if they're not making that distinction, that's wrong. But we have to look at the reality on the ground. And the reality on the ground is that Hamas is in charge in Gaza and Hamas slaughtered civilians. You talked about nonviolence when it came to Israel, though your position was the same as many others, that after they were attacked on October 7, they have the right to self defense. (14:11–14:17)
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Asserts that Hamas controls Gaza and has killed civilians.
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