Now, the theory here is Trump is doing these violent deportations, tackling people, spending a lot of money while doing it. Why? Why is Trump doing it this way? Why does Pete think he's doing it this way? I think he [Trump] thrives on a politics of fear. I think chaos is good for him. I think he thrives on chaos. I think when you see images of people getting beaten up or, you know what, what he used to call American carnage, like anything that validates that, basically, the worse. (41:08–44:06)
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Asserts that Trump benefits from politics of fear and chaos.
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