So what a special treat for us to have him be moderating this conversation with Ben. Now, what you should know about both of them being from Wisconsin is that Wisconsin has been a place where the Republicans tried every terrible thing, whether it was redistricting or all kinds of things that they would later take to the rest of the country. So they saw firsthand up front how to deal with that. And that's what has made Ben so capable of writing this book. (02:40–02:55)
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Asserts that Republicans used Wisconsin as a testing ground for redistricting and other strategies.
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