So I decided that I would run for Whip, which was the position had become open because David Bonner, who was the whip, was then leaving to run for governor of Michigan. So I said I would run. So the men. See, I always thought we would have a woman president long before we'd ever have a woman in leadership in the congress. Because you're not talking glass ceiling here. We're talking serious marble ceiling. This is nothing. And so when I was running, they basically said, you know, we have a pecking order here. (35:48–35:55)
CLAIM
Asserts her belief that a woman would become president before a woman would hold a leadership position in Congress.
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