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Mike Johnson: “The debt is our number one national security threat.”

Featuring: Mike Johnson, Republican | Speaker of the United States House of Representatives | National

Speaker Johnson on Pod Force One with Miranda Devine

Published July 16, 2025 | Video Starts at 05:28

Elon, I've tried to convince him we're taking several steps. I call it the Five steps to Fiscal Sanity, Fiscal responsibility. You're a hawk yourself. Yes. And we spend too much money. And The debt is our number one national security threat. And Congress to solve it. Yes. More than that. Now the trajectory is not sustainable. But we can't solve the problem overnight because it took decades for us to get here. (05:28–05:31)

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