Right. It's not about the national election. It's about five or six or seven states. And in the state of Wisconsin, I got to tell you, Ben Wickler, the Democratic Party chair, is as strong as damn near any party chair. And I would like to see him beat the next DNC chair, not just because I got a cell phone number and I know the guy, but also because I think he's effective and he's good and he's a great fundraiser and all those things. (28:55–29:02)
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Asserts that Ben Wickler is a highly effective Democratic Party chair.
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