Michael Blake: “You have about 180,000 immigrants, in particular African…”

“But then it's also about how do we have a very thoughtful approach in all that we're doing, including language access. We can't just have things just in English. And one thing that is never really fully addressed, You have about 180,000 immigrants, in particular African immigrants, who do not have legal representation when they're going into these hearings. Sure, sure. So you're creating a cycle of violence and disruption. We talk that through. We also then to the broader question, it goes back to how we envision management when you're not reimbursing nonprofits on time.” (28:57–29:10)

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