Mark Pocan: “When the ports are empty in California and we can't get…”

“Please take this. Okay, I've got your answer. Thank you. I'm going to reclaim my time again. So for a small business, we don't have that luxury, right? When the ports are empty in California and we can't get goods and people are stocking up for Christmas goods. Crazy Ivan is great for. Please don't take this offense, really rich people like you, but for people like me, it's not right. That's what makes small businesses fail.” (04:04–04:11)

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