And it's a fairly progressive chamber of commerce. Obviously it's Madison, Wisconsin. And one of the things I kind of took away is that, you know, the process. First of all, We're really good at density because we've been for a long time because of environmental reasons. in particular. We don't want the sprawl. We want to keep those open spaces. So that hasn't been a problem. But it's the amount of time and the process it takes for permitting and to move something forward. (37:19–37:25)
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