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Mark Pocan: “The Trump administration also wants to change the definition…”

Featuring: Mark Pocan, Democratic | U.S. House, Wisconsin, District 2

Congressman Mark Pocan's Podcast on National Parks with Emily from the Coalition to Protect America's National Parks

Published May 15, 2025 | Video Starts at 22:50

… environmental studies before we lease lands, that really, that hits at the heart of the mission of the National Park Service to ensure these places are around for future generations. The Trump administration also wants to change the definition of harm regarding the Endangered Species Act. Can you talk about that and let our listeners know what that means and how it could impact the parks? Sure, yeah. (22:50–22:57)

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Asserts that the Trump administration seeks to alter the definition of harm in the Endangered Species Act.

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