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Mark Pocan: “Having an unelected billionaire in charge of the federal…”

Featuring: Mark Pocan, Democratic | U.S. House, Wisconsin, District 2

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Published February 14, 2025 | Video Starts at 00:15

Foreign. Welcome to this week's with Liberty and Justice for Some. I'm Mark Pocahn. Another crazy week in Washington with the Trump Musk administration. More overreach. Having an unelected billionaire in charge of the federal government spending agency by agency is a little surreal. bunch of folks, including big balls and other 19 and 20 year olds, is a little surreal. The good news, there's more legal challenges to these illegal actions by the president and that's very positive. (00:15–00:31)

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“The most important thing is that all of this is about the holy grail for the Republicans. That's their tax cut bill for the wealthiest.”
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“Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg and of course, Donald Trump and most of the people who belong to Mar a Lago will get a tax cut.”
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“The biggest battle of the year and maybe of the Trump presidency will be a reconciliation bill that has a huge tax break for the wealthiest…”
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“Something like 80% plus of the money in the tax break bill went to the top 1%.”
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“That tax bill racked up trillions of dollars in debt that many of us are going to be repaying for a while.”
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“We're hearing there could be a giant corporate tax cut in the works as well.”
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“Donald Trump said in many ways, whether it be the people he's appointed or that crowd where he stands, you know, many in that MAGA crowd…”
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“It's tax break is also a tax expenditure.”
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“You certainly are taking money away from programs that I think the average person benefits far more from.”
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“Some people think, well, maybe someday I'll be wealthy. And of course we know that rate's going to be much smaller than people who believe…”
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“Should we really call them tax extensions? Because it's a new decision to make this tax break.”
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“The lowest point of the last Trump presidency for his popularity was when he did his tax bill.”
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“The rate [corporate tax] was 35% prior to the Trump presidency. He lowered it to 21%.”
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“Every dollar that's invested in the IRS, Internal Revenue Service, supposedly between 5 and $9 gets brought in from tax cheats, mostly…”
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“Donald Trump just, I think in the last few weeks, it's proposed that one of his rallies that we shift more IRS workers to work at the border…”
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“We watched Elon Musk spend a quarter of a billion dollars to elect Donald Trump.”
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“This is going to be the most consequential thing the Trump administration will do in the next four years, and they're going to do it right…”
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