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Mark Pocan: “Donald Trump started a war, a war of choice with Iran.”

Featuring: Mark Pocan, Democratic | U.S. House, Wisconsin, District 2

With Liberty and Justice for Some Ep. 56 with Matt Duss

Published March 4, 2026 | Video Starts at 02:29

Appreciate it. Thanks for being with us. This week's podcast couldn't be more timely with a perfectly matched guest to meet the moment we're in. This past weekend, Donald Trump started a war, a war of choice with Iran. And since then, he has given us multiple different reasons for why he did it. But the one thing we do know is that the American people don't want war. (02:29–02:33)

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“We just reached $1 trillion annually for the Department of Defense, a crazy increase.”
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“You didn't have drinkable water for 95% of the people [in Gaza].”
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“Benjamin Netanyahu, he's been by the international courts considered a war criminal.”
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“The number of, I think it's what, 75 plus thousand that we know of dead.”
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“This administration does not have its story straight on why we did what we did, nor does it have any actual mission goals or an intended…”
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“I believe in the last year we have bombed eight different countries in the Trump administration.”
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“Trump did not have the legal authority to do this.”
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“Marco Rubio actually said, well, we can't do additional time because the Department of War is busy in, in middle evolved of a war.”
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“I know that they said there was a threat to Trump's life and that supposedly they killed someone who had made a threat in Iran.”
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“Right now we have a War Powers Act. It's going to be Coming before Congress, it is, by law incumbent on us to do this as a Congress, isn't…”
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“You're going to support an illegal war of choice by Donald Trump by supporting the funding.”
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“They can't tell us whether there'll be boots on the ground, they can't tell us much of anything even.”
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“They clearly didn't have a clue what they were doing on this front either.”
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“We had invasion. We took out [Venezuela's] leader.”
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“It sure looks like it might have been more about oil or just Marco Rubio setting the stage for going into Cuba.”
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“Too many Republicans do like to do regime change.”
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“I don't think the American people want regime change. We've seen the cost to us both in human lives as well as actual cost to the country.”
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“Does fentanyl come from Venezuela?”
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“It was very clear when we had a briefing on the bombings of the boats that they were setting this up.”
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“They promised us they weren't planning any going into Venezuela, which they shortly thereafter did.”
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“We are, you know, have this blockade against Cuba, including fuel.”
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“UN officials have condemned [the situation in Gaza] as illegal, that it's going to already make the humanitarian situation even worse.”
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“We also couldn't convince the Biden administration to do the right thing either.”
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“Barack Obama got it closest [to resolving the situation].”
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“People couldn't come and go as they wanted to [in Gaza].”
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“The US Government tried to convince me not to go [to Gaza].”
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“What he's done, I consider personally war crimes.”
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“Israel had a right to go into any of these areas.”
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“Holding back humanitarian aid. There is no excuse anymore to do this.”
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“In the illegal settlements in the west bank also now.”
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“A number of us introduced the Block the Bombs Act.”
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“Giving the US Military assistance that can be used to use against people in the region.”
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