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Mark Pocan: “Crippling the National Labor Relations Board by trying to…”

Featuring: Mark Pocan, Democratic | U.S. House, Wisconsin, District 2

Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler

Published May 2, 2025 | Video Starts at 00:20

This has included going after the collective bargaining rights of over a million federal workers, firing workers at agencies and dismantling the very agencies that keep workers safe, and even Crippling the National Labor Relations Board by trying to fire board member Gwen Wilcox. Fortunately, her job was restored, but we're not backing down. Today I'm joined by president of the AFL cio, Liz Schuller. (00:20–00:26)

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Asserts that there was an attempt to fire Gwen Wilcox to cripple the National Labor Relations Board.

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“This has included going after the collective bargaining rights of over a million federal workers.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 00:08-00:15
“Union Support is at 71% high going back decades.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 02:57-03:02
“Among people under 30, the support is at 91%.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 03:02-03:07
“I think that number is more than 200,000 federal employees that have been fired or taken a buyout.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 12:15-12:21
“Some agencies like the IRS or the Health and Human Services have seen a quarter of their staff fired.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 12:21-12:29
“The Joint Committee on Taxation came back and said, no, it's actually five and a half trillion in order to extend these cuts.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 16:40-16:48
“They've actually set up for $7 trillion in tax cuts.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 16:54-16:59
“For a while they [Amazon employees] had to urinate in bottles because they weren't allowed to take breaks.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 25:29-25:35
“In the first hundred days of the Trump administration, we've seen a barrage of attacks on workers.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 00:03-00:09
“The AFL CIO is a federation of 63 national and international unions representing over 15 million people.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 03:46-03:55
“We have some of those video game unionized workers right here in my district.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 07:42-07:47
“71% of people, in a era of people with red hats and blue hats, to find 71% of people supporting unions and under 30, 91%.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 07:54-08:07
“Scott Walker, when he became governor, he was already running for president from day one and that's when he destroyed public employee unions…”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 11:20-11:29
“They went on to go after prevailing wage and make us right to work.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 11:29-11:35
“The Senate in that same bill added room for another trillion and a half in other tax cuts if they choose to.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 16:47-16:55
“The National Labor Relations Board is like the traffic cop, making sure employers treat workers fairly.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 21:27-21:33
“They just kind of without cause, fired one of the board members, Gwen Wilcox, and she had to be reinstated.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 21:48-21:58
“Amazon being one of the biggest companies trying to do union busting when there's real efforts out there.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 25:17-25:29
“Targeted tariffs can be very useful. If China's going to dump cheap steel in the United States, we absolutely should use tariffs to support…”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 32:29-32:41
“The indiscriminate use of tariffs for everything on all sorts of countries... turns out to be more of a tax on consumers in the US because…”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 32:42-33:00
“Labor advocates for fair treatment of workers, which benefits businesses by reducing turnover and retraining costs.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 37:23-37:32
“In my district, I have a video game company that's unionized.”
Podcast Discussion on Labor Rights and Union Support with Mark Pocan and AFL-CIO President Liz Schuler | Uploaded May 2, 2025 | 42:09-42:20
“We have all the Starbucks that are organizing.”
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“We have the work that's been going on with Amazon.”
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