Mark Pocan: “As a small business owner, I often think small business…”

“I think that there would be bipartisan condemnation. Yeah. Of what they're seeing. But as long as they can keep it secret beneath that veil, they're going to get away with murder. Yeah. And As a small business owner, I often think small business people who put money towards healthcare could instead hire more people or invest in more equipment to hire more people if they weren't the ones providing that instead of the actual direct support for employees. Now you travel the state you mentioned, you have been so successful because you are tireless in going around every little nook and cranny in Wisconsin.” (25:06–25:23)

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